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# Cremote Extraction - Reality Check
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## The Correct Understanding
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### Cremote Boundary (Browser Only)
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```
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┌─────────────────────────────────────┐
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│ CREMOTE TOOLS │
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│ - Rendered HTML/CSS/JS only │
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│ - Browser DOM access │
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│ - Execute JavaScript in console │
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│ - Download visible assets │
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│ │
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│ ❌ NO WordPress API access │
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│ ❌ NO server-side data │
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│ ❌ NO database access │
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└─────────────────────────────────────┘
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```
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### WordPress MCP Boundary (Server Side)
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```
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┌─────────────────────────────────────┐
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│ WORDPRESS MCP TOOLS │
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│ - WordPress REST API │
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│ - Database/post meta │
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│ - Original shortcode/JSON │
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│ - All builder settings │
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│ │
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│ ❌ NO access to external sites │
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│ ❌ Requires WordPress credentials │
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└─────────────────────────────────────┘
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```
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---
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## What Cremote Can ACTUALLY Extract
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### From Rendered HTML Classes
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```javascript
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// Section types
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.et_pb_section_regular → regular section
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.et_section_specialty → specialty section
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.et_pb_fullwidth_section → fullwidth section
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.et_pb_section_parallax → has parallax
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// Column layouts
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.et_pb_column_4_4 → full width
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.et_pb_column_1_2 → half width
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.et_pb_column_1_3 → one third
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.et_pb_column_2_3 → two thirds
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// Module types
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.et_pb_text → text module
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.et_pb_image → image module
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.et_pb_button → button module
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.et_pb_blurb → blurb module
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```
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### From Computed Styles
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```javascript
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// Background colors
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window.getComputedStyle(element).backgroundColor
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// → "rgb(255, 255, 255)"
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// Background images
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window.getComputedStyle(element).backgroundImage
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// → "url('https://site.com/image.jpg')"
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// → "linear-gradient(...), url(...)"
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// Padding, margins, colors
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window.getComputedStyle(element).padding
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window.getComputedStyle(element).color
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```
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### From DOM Content
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```javascript
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// Text content
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element.innerHTML
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element.textContent
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// Image sources
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img.src
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img.alt
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img.width
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img.height
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// Button URLs
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button.href
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button.textContent
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// Icon data
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element.getAttribute('data-icon')
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```
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---
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## What Cremote CANNOT Extract
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### ❌ Builder Settings (Not in HTML)
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- Animation settings (entrance, duration, delay)
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- Custom CSS IDs added in builder
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- Custom CSS classes added in builder
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- Module-specific IDs
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- Z-index values set in builder
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- Border radius set in builder
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- Box shadows set in builder
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### ❌ Responsive Settings (Not in Desktop HTML)
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- Tablet-specific layouts
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- Phone-specific layouts
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- Responsive font sizes
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- Responsive padding/margins
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- Responsive visibility settings
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### ❌ Original Divi Data (Server Side)
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- Original shortcode
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- Original JSON structure
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- Post meta data
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- Module settings stored in database
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- Dynamic content sources (ACF fields)
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### ❌ Complex Module Configurations
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- Contact form field structure (only see rendered form)
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- Gallery image IDs (only see rendered images)
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- Slider settings (only see first slide)
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- Blog module query parameters
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- Social follow network configurations
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---
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## The Real Workflow
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### What We Can Do
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```
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1. CREMOTE: Extract visible structure from rendered HTML
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↓
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2. CREMOTE: Extract visible content (text, images, buttons)
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↓
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3. CREMOTE: Extract computed styles (colors, backgrounds)
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↓
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4. CREMOTE: Download images via browser
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↓
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5. WORDPRESS MCP: Upload images to target site
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↓
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6. WORDPRESS MCP: REBUILD page from scratch using extracted data
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```
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### What We CANNOT Do
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```
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❌ Extract original Divi shortcode/JSON
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❌ Get exact builder settings
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❌ Recreate responsive configurations
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❌ Get animation settings
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❌ Access any WordPress API data
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```
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---
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## Corrected Tool Proposal
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### Tool 1: `extract_divi_visual_structure_cremote`
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**What it does:** Extract VISIBLE structure from rendered HTML
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**Input:** URL
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**Output:** Approximated structure based on CSS classes
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**Accuracy:** 60-70% (approximation only)
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```json
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{
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"sections": [
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{
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"type": "regular", // from .et_pb_section_regular
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"hasParallax": true, // from .et_pb_section_parallax
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"backgroundColor": "rgb(255,255,255)", // computed
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"backgroundImage": "url(...)", // computed
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"rows": [
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{
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"columns": [
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{
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"type": "1_2", // from .et_pb_column_1_2
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"modules": [
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{
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"type": "text", // from .et_pb_text
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"content": "<p>...</p>" // innerHTML
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}
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]
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}
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]
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}
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]
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}
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]
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}
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```
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### Tool 2: `extract_divi_images_cremote`
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**What it does:** Extract all visible images
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**Input:** URL
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**Output:** Array of image URLs with metadata
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**Accuracy:** 100% (for visible images)
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```json
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{
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"images": [
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{
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"url": "https://site.com/image.jpg",
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"alt": "Image description",
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"width": 1920,
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"height": 1080,
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"context": "section 0, row 0, column 0, module 2"
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}
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]
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}
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```
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### Tool 3: `rebuild_page_from_visual_data_wordpress`
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**What it does:** REBUILD page on target site using extracted visual data
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**Input:** Extracted structure + target site
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**Output:** New page ID
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**Accuracy:** 60-70% (missing builder settings)
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**Important:** This REBUILDS from scratch, not recreates exactly.
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## Key Limitations
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### 1. No Original Shortcode/JSON
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We cannot extract the original Divi shortcode or JSON. We can only approximate the structure from CSS classes.
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### 2. No Builder Settings
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We cannot get animation settings, custom CSS IDs, responsive configs, or any builder-specific settings.
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### 3. Approximation Only
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The extracted structure is an APPROXIMATION based on visible HTML. It will not be pixel-perfect.
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### 4. Manual Work Required
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After rebuilding, user must manually:
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- Add animations
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- Configure responsive settings
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- Add custom CSS
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- Configure complex modules (forms, sliders)
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- Adjust spacing/styling to match
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---
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## Realistic Expectations
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### What We Can Achieve
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- ✅ Extract basic structure (sections, rows, columns)
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- ✅ Extract content (text, images, buttons)
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- ✅ Extract visible styling (colors, backgrounds)
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- ✅ Download and upload images
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- ✅ REBUILD page with basic structure
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### What We Cannot Achieve
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- ❌ Exact recreation of original page
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- ❌ Builder settings and configurations
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- ❌ Responsive layouts
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- ❌ Animations and effects
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- ❌ Complex module configurations
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### Accuracy Estimate
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- **Structure:** 60-70% (approximation from classes)
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- **Content:** 90-100% (visible content)
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- **Styling:** 50-60% (computed styles only)
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- **Overall:** 60-70% (requires significant manual work)
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---
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## Recommendation
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### Should We Build These Tools?
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**YES, but with correct expectations:**
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1. These tools enable BASIC page recreation from external sites
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2. They provide a STARTING POINT, not a finished product
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3. They save time on manual content extraction
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4. They require 30-40% manual work after extraction
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### Use Cases
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- ✅ Competitive analysis (get basic structure)
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- ✅ Quick prototyping (approximate layout)
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- ✅ Content extraction (text, images)
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- ❌ Production migrations (too inaccurate)
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- ❌ Exact recreations (impossible without API)
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### Alternative Approach
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For sites you control, ALWAYS use WordPress MCP tools directly. Only use cremote for external sites where you have no other option.
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---
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## Corrected Conclusion
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**Can we extract Divi pages with cremote?**
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- YES, but only APPROXIMATE structure from rendered HTML
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- NO original shortcode/JSON
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- NO builder settings
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- 60-70% accuracy
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- Requires significant manual work
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**Do we need additional tools?**
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- YES, if you need to analyze external sites
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- NO, if you only work with sites you control (use WordPress MCP)
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**Should we build them?**
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- YES, for competitive analysis and basic extraction
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- Set correct expectations: approximation, not recreation
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